Thursday, September 27, 2018

Its a Wonderful Day


So, yesterday, I had a doctor appointment to drive to so I called this woman that had said she had applied for kittens, but for some reason I never received the application.  I wanted to get to know her - ANYONE that would adopt a pair of kittens - I love that!  So I asked her for her number and said I would call her on my drive.  I called, she sounded very pleasant, educated, had a good job, married, no kids, her kitties passed away, she was lonely with out a cat for the first time in her life.  I told her that she sounded like the perfect adopter!  She said she was excited, but that there was one thing on my application she didn't agree to, and that was the home visit.  As I drove, my face was like...........  what???  I said 'oh...  and basically didn't know what to say.  She said if that was required then the conversation should go no further.  I was like............ oh...  OK....  I am sorry, but I would have to see where these cats would end up.  She wished me luck and said goodbye.  I drove for another 10 minutes to the appointment - astounded.  Why would she be so vehemently against this?

So I put it out on Facebook, and got some really great responses, all affirming my thoughts.  Exactly.   For those of you not on Facebook, I am sharing with you.



An Vrancken of all the rescue I have seen this is standard practice here in Europe to do. So keep on doing the way you are doing it. 

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Angela Ager If someone refuses to do a home visit, in my opinion, they are hiding something. I'd be done.

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Sandy Murray I would definitely not leave any animal with this person. Keep up with your way.

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Becky Zielinski If she has any issues with a home visit, there is something she doesn’t want you to see. You are not being unreasonable. You put so much love and care into every single cat and kitten that crosses your path. You have every right to know the homes they are going to are safe. ❤️

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Alia Brown Gervasi Agreed as well. I have a hard enough time letting them go to homes I know are good.
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Jeannine Weider Completely reasonable 
What is she hiding .

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Elizabeth Whipple Absolutely not. I'm only a foster and if I can't look around and see how well my kittens/dogs interact with a perspective owner I report back to the rescue that I'm not comfortable with it.

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Julie Lombart · Friends with Barb Yahn and 2 others
You're doing the absolute right thing

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Norma Contestable I wouldn’t leave a dead mouse with this shady Sally!!!😢

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Gaye McCullough You have the right to check and make sure that this is a good place for one of your cats. And, your cat, your right to judge what is good and what is not. Keep on doing what you are doing.

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Karla Barkley A home visits is not required with us. The question is on our application. 

If someone stated absolutely not then app is denied. 
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Angela Ager ^^^ This.
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Kristina Bosworth Agree ^^. My rescue doesn't have cats or dogs but most of our bunny adopters get a home visit - and like stated it's just a quick look to make sure they're prepared and they're not a hoarder or something, this usually happens when we drop the animal off after going through the rest of the process and meeting them with the animal at the fosters. If there was an issue upon dropping off the animal and seeing the home we'd back out.
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Kristy Anderson Lots of places not only require home visits, but vet records and they dive into the backgrounds of ALL pets. I was denied adopting with a Rochester rescue because I had an elderly, indoor only cat, who had severe anxiety when in the car, and would vomit terribly so I elected NOT to take him to his annual health check. He was VERY well cared for and documented, but I elected not to take him for annual physicals essentially... YOU are absolutely REASONABLE!

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Sharon Orienter Doorbell Vet, they come to you"
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Gail Gutfrucht She’s either hiding something, or very naive. It’s standard practice.

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Beth Ann Pesce-Lynch I think she is being unreasonable. If she has nothing to hide then what is the big deal? I would not trust someone who would not let you come into their home. You cannot be too careful. Not meant to be.

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Sheryl Little No home visit=no adoption. There is no reasonable reason someone should refuse a home visit from a rescue needing to verify where their loved pets are going is safe.

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Crystal Zastrocky If they are refusing a home visit they have something to hide dont do it

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Cheryl Brandt JANINE......woooo bad sign. Even if her house was ok...she wasn't. I would never give any animal to a person that acted bad ..mean...hard to work with. And I always make a visit.

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Siobhan Sattora Nooopppeeeeee. Of they will not allow a home visit then no adoption. Something is up. Pretty much anywhere you adopt from will do a home visit.

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Siobhan Sattora In other words, you requesting a home visit is NOT unreasonable. She is.
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Chris DuPont Wow! Absolutely NOT a good sign.

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Terrie Potter I wouldn’t do it ; something is not right here.

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Rita Mickolichik-Larmon You are completely in the right

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Andrea Dockstader-Haas 100% right...if they do not allow a home visit then no adoption

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Mary Jo Mulligan Always remember you're there that you make sure the pet has a quality home
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Denise LaRussa Extremely REASONABLE
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Michelle Higgins-Marshall Yeah... that’s sketchy... I think it’s totally reasonable that you want to make sure your kitties have a safe clean home, they’ve already had rough lives

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Susan Brown Exactly and do not place them there!!! Remember how carefully you checked me out?

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Kim Mervis Roach Smart decision to not allow this person to adopt. You should have that right to see where the fruits or felines of your labor are going.
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Josette Pellittiere ABSOLUTELY! NO HOME VISIT, NO ADOPTION!!!!

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Candice Senesac Duersteler Janine this is a huge red flag huge there would be no adoption from our rescue to someone who would refuse that request
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Christy Ann I’d be more than happy and understanding of a walk through, hoarding situations are far too common
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Jennifer Stocks Did she know ahead of time what a home visit actually is? For cats, I just do the home visit at the time of adoption so it doesn't seem intrusive. I tell them that I will check and if it's not a good match, I can't leave the cat. Haven't had an issue yet.
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Ashley Battaglia I love doing it this way as well
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Azure Allen I can see both sides of the coin, meaning I can understand someone feeling insulted like " oh you think I live dirty? " but then after it was explained the way u just did, they shouldn't be insulted....they should WANT to put you at ease. Unless they know they cant....then they might hang up. It's a red flag....who says something so rude??? Especially if they want the kittens. Home visits are pretty standard for many rescuers.
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SueAnn Meddaugh nope... you did and are doing the absolute necessary thing.. these creatures can't advocate for themselves.. you are the advocate... keep on doing it...

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Patty Mangarelli I think it's fine and the refusal is good luck for the cat!
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Kellie Jordan If they don’t want you to come to their house they have something they don’t want you to see obviously you’re 100% right I’ve done it a couple times with you and it shows that you care about the kitties

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Kellie Jordan To me it’s no different than putting a child up for adoption you have to see the environment that the babies are going to live in

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Robin Dietschler No home visit. No adoption! I've seen too many hoarders adopt just to keep them in a cage all day.
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Camille Whelehan · 3 mutual friends
You did The Right thing. too many crazies our there. She sounded like one of then.

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SueAnn Meddaugh do you know what I think is so darn wonderful about this.. Here you have Janine on one hand.. tough as nails she is to protect those kitties of her on the street.. stand up to all sorts of shifty folks.. always lending a hand either literally or in the form of directing a needy person to the place to get help..( you can lead a horse....) she deprives her self and family of her time and of economical pleasures so her passion for lessening others pain.. whether human or animal is able to be pursued... yet she is also concerned about perhaps offending someone by not giving them a kitty.. without home screening.. In her head she knows darn well she is right.. IN her heart too.. but she would still rather have support to be absolutely positive that she is not too full of herself.. and wants to not hurt anyone.. YOU Janine are grounded.. You are decisive and spot on.. Do Not Doubt Do.... quote of Yoda... Be fierce.. You need to continue to be fierce as yours is not an easy road you chose, but it is the right road...

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Laurie Cuminale Nicely said!
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Susan Harris Def right!!!!!
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Jim White I believe GRASP also requires a home visit for the same reasons you stated. Stand by your beliefs. If you can't visit, you don't know what conditions you are putting your kitties into.
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Sharon Orienter Nope, but they do require a vet referral. But, I use Doorbell Vet, and they can vouch for home conditions.
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Jim White Vet referral only required if you presently have a cat or dog.
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Michele Dashineau You're absolutely right, Janine! Thanks so much for what you do!
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Janine Wagner Wow. Great response! But now she'll go to Lollypop or RAS who I don't believe do home visits.😠

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SueAnn Meddaugh you are not responsible for the world.. only for those beautiful creatures and people who get to share in the wonderful world of Janine

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Jim White I know RAS does not do Vet Checks or Home Visits and I think Lollypop is the same. But those are not YOUR babies. You have every right to place your babies in loving safe homes.

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Christy Ann Neither does PetSmart, I was surprised they didn’t do one when I got my dog
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Elizabeth Whipple These are the babies you worry and care about. They deserve the very best considering where they've come from. You are making the right decision.
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Siobhan Sattora Janine Wagner sadly that is likely BUT you will do what you can to protect those furbabies thay are in YOUR care.
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Gail Gustafson Christy Ann they don't care, they just keep pushing out the puppy mill dogs to make room for more.

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Christy Ann Gail Gustafson well she may have been a puppy mill dog but I got her older, and she didn’t know grads ðŸ˜ž
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Terrie Potter At least you know that your kitty’s are safe
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Terrie Potter I’ve gone with you to an adopters home and it’s not like you snoop in rooms , drawers , etc. if someone can’t handle you checking out their home to make sure the kittens are in a safe environment- they don’t deserve the wonderful kittens that you have to offer. Most organizations do home checks.

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Alaine O'connor Uh uh no dice what’s she got to hide?

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Mary Jo Mulligan Well we're all on Facebook can you post her on Facebook before she goes to lollipop or Ras??😊 you have a lot of people that care about you Janine and those that you save

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Susan LoFurno I have adopted from Brightstar German Shepherd Rescue and Paws of Gold Rescue...and they both do home visits!!!! Wayne County Humane Society did not...but they do check vet references....and even a personal reference. You are not out of line at all.... 
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Christina Anastassiou Ratchford Yeah they are suspicious
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Linda Frazo Honestly, if she was some type of hoarder she could just get on Craigslist and get all the free cats she wants. But that being said...It does sound suspicious with the way she reacted. Basically your rescue cat to adopt out...Your rules. End of story. I've adopted from Grasp and Pet Adoption Network in the past and they both just called my Vet to see if my current cats were up to date. I can't remember if they asked about a home visit on the application.
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Tammy Cooke Leavy Janine- you are 100% right. No one should have a cat living in a home that may not be safe. You can't take that chance.
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Patti Lagendyk No that no unreasonable. Ya wanna make sure cats or kittens are safe in new home. I welcome anyone esp we had someone came to check our home when we consider adopting a dog. I’m sure most rescues does this some don’t. Ya doing great job esp making sure they are safe . That red flag that she refusing u to check her home.. ðŸ’•ðŸ˜˜❤️
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Joanne Rawlings Not unreasonable at all. Sounds like she either had something to hide or up to no good.
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Heather Yandricha-Strocko Oh hell NO!! You need to make sure they are going to be safe.
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Deborah Lampman I welcomed you into my home and expected you to look around. It’s your responsibility to make sure your rescues have a good home. She doesn’t deserve one of your kittens. Keep those babies safe!!!
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Lisa Hart I agree, it's suspicious that she had this attitude about it......good call
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Barb Yahn No home visit no dog. You won't let me in the house you're hiding something except in the case we saw the bed bug spray we didn't want to go in.

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Elizabeth Whipple Barb Yahn amen to that. No thank you.

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Ashley Anderson She'd be a no for me.

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Katherine Arisumi If she is that rude about it she probably has something to hide.

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Felicity Brach You certainly are right! What the heck!!
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Ashley Battaglia If she is declining a home visit that sounds like a serious red flag for something
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Cassandra Kelly I think that's totally legit. I get that some people are sensitive to being judged, or maybe ashamed of their particular housekeeping style-- and I don't want to be insensitive to that. Still, this is a living creature and it's been a part of your family, and with so many people who will harm animals, either inadvertently or by neglect, after they've gotten "bored" with the particular animal, then yes, I think it's very reasonable to a home inspection. Heck, I made people sign contracts, give a vet reference, and all sorts of other things, in addition to home visits, when they were strangers to me. I still had one or two vanish a few months after an adoption, and I always wondered if that pet they adopted were taken care of as promised. Usually, if you explain this to folks looking to adopt, I find they get it. If they don't-- then this adoption isn't a good fit for all parties-- no judgement on them, or you, just not the right fit for the parties involved.
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Jackie Walton Something is fishy - you were absolutely right -
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Laurie Nesbitt Eff that....no way in hell ! ðŸ˜ 
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Jennifer Stocks I will clarify my post - before I agree to the step of adoption, I’ve googled the address and viewed the outside, seen the neighborhood, backyard, etc. so I pretty much know what I’m walking into. 
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